DTC P1391 Rough Road Sensor Performance. Oldsmobile Shelby Series 1 1999

For 1990-2009 cars
Engine Controls Components
Rough Road, Generator and IAC
OBD II Symbol Description Notice
Powertrain Control Module Connector End Views
Handling ESD Sensitive Parts Notice

### Circuit Description

The rough road (G) sensor is a vertical low G-acceleration sensor. By sensing vertical acceleration caused by bumps or potholes in the road, the powertrain control module (PCM) can determine if the changes in crankshaft speed are due to engine misfire or driveline induced. If the rough road sensor detects a rough road condition , the PCM misfire detection diagnostic will be disabled. The rough road sensor at rest output is +1G (2.5 volts). During a rough road condition the voltage output can vary between -1G (0.5 volts) to +3G (4.5 volts).

### Conditions for Running the DTC

• | The engine is running.

• | No vehicle speed

### Conditions for Setting the DTC

• | The rough road signal indicates more than 1.5G or less than 0.5G for 6 seconds.

| or

• | The vehicle speed is more than 0 km/h (0 mph).

• | The rough road sensor signal indicated a change less than 20 millivolts for 6 seconds.

### Action Taken When the DTC Sets

• | The powertrain control module (PCM) stores the DTC information into memory when the diagnostic runs and fails.

• | The malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) will not illuminate.

• | The PCM records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The PCM stores this information in the Failure Records.

### Conditions for Clearing the DTC

• | A last test failed, or current DTC, clears when the diagnostic runs and does not fail.

• | A history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other non-emission related diagnostic.

• | Use a scan tool in order to clear the DTC.

### Diagnostic Aids

Inspect for the following conditions:

• | A poor connection at the PCM -- Inspect harness connectors for backed out terminals, improper mating, broken locks, improperly formed or damaged terminals, and poor terminal to wire connection.

• | A damaged harness -- Inspect the wiring harness for damage. If the harness appears to be OK, observe the rough road display on the scan tool while moving connectors and wiring harness related to the sensor. A change in the display will indicate the location of the fault.

If the Rough Road sensor ground circuit is open, this will cause the sensor output voltage to go high, from 4.1 to 4.2 volts, but the voltage is not high enough to set DTC 1393. DTC P1391 will set for this open sensor ground circuit after several minutes of driving.

Reviewing the Failure Records vehicle kilometers (miles) since the diagnostic test last failed may help determine how often the condition that caused the DTC to be set occurs. This may assist in diagnosing the condition.

### Test Description

The number below refers to the step number on the diagnostic table.

1. This step determines if the fault is present.

Step | Action | Values | Yes | No
--- | --- | --- | --- | ---
1 | Did you perform the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check? | -- | Go to Step 2 | Go to Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2

1. Turn the ignition ON, leaving the engine OFF.
2. Review and record the scan tool Failure Records data.
3. Operate the vehicle within the Failure Records condition as noted.
4. Using a scan tool, monitor Specific DTC info for DTC P1391.

Does the scan tool indicate DTC P1391 failed?

--

Go to Step 4

Go to Step 3

3

Inspect for the following conditions:

• | Rough road sensor damaged

• | Rough road mounting bracket cracked, missing or incorrectly installed

Was a problem found?

--

Go to Step 12

Go to Diagnostic Aids

4

1. Disconnect the rough road sensor electrical connector.
2. Observe the rough road value displayed on the scan tool.

Is the rough road sensor value near the specified value?

0 V

Go to Step 5

Go to Step 13

5

1. Connect a test lamp between B+ and the rough road sensor signal circuit at the rough road sensor harness connector.
2. Observe the rough road value displayed on the scan tool.

Is the rough road sensor value near the specified value?

4.95 V

Go to Step 6

Go to Step 9

6

1. Jumper the 5 volt reference circuit and the rough road sensor signal circuit together at the rough road sensor harness connector.
2. Observe the rough road value displayed on the scan tool.

Is the rough road sensor value near the specified value?

4.95 V

Go to Step 7

Go to Step 8

7

1. Turn the ignition OFF.
2. Disconnect the PCM C1 connector and check the sensor ground circuit for high resistance, an open between the PCM C1 connector and the rough road sensor, or a poor connection at the PCM C1 connector.
3. Repair if necessary.

Was a problem found?

--

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 11

8

1. Inspect the 5 volt reference circuit for high resistance, an open between the PCM C1 connector and the rough road sensor, or a poor connection at the PCM C1 connector.
2. Repair if necessary. Refer to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Was a problem found?

--

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 10

9

1. Turn the ignition OFF.
2. Disconnect the PCM C1 connector and check the rough road sensor signal circuit for high resistance, an open, a short to ground, or a short to the sensor ground circuit.

Was a problem found?

--

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 10

10

1. Inspect the rough road sensor signal circuit for a poor connection at the PCM C1 connector.
2. Repair if necessary. Refer to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Was a problem found?

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 14

11

1. Inspect for a poor connection at the rough road sensor.
2. Repair if necessary. Refer to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Was a problem found?

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 12

12 | Replace the rough road sensor. Is the action complete? |  | Go to Step 15 | --

13

1. Turn the ignition OFF.
2. Disconnect the PCM.
3. Turn the ignition ON.
4. Check the rough road signal circuit for a short to voltage or a short to the 5 volt reference circuit.

Was a problem found?

--

Go to Step 15

Go to Step 14

14 | Important: The replacement PCM must be programmed. Replace the PCM. Refer to Powertrain Control Module Replacement/Programming . Is the action complete? | -- | Go to Step 15 | --

15

1. Select the DTC option and the Clear DTC Information option using the scan tool.
2. Idle the engine at the normal operating temperature.
3. Select the DTC option and the Specific DTC option, then enter the DTC number using the scan tool.
4. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text, if applicable.

Does the scan tool indicate that this test ran and passed?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 2

16 | Select the Capture Info option and the Review Info option using the scan tool. Does the scan tool display any DTCs that you have not diagnosed? | -- | Go to the applicable DTC table | System OK